Setting up classes

oh well...
we somehow have to set up our classes...

first of... decide what kind of classes exist... giving them a name...
giving them abilities, attributes, weapons, etc...

then.. setting up levels and ranks... requirements, how, abilities, etc..

balancing


everyone is welcome to help



ok.... i'll start a basic table...
in this you can see th basic classes... and their advances...
ranks and names to be edited of course...

RPG Classes
basic classes	first splitt/2nd rank	3rd rank	4th/final rank (?)
soldiers	samurai	shogun	warlord
	spearman	pikeman	crusader
		lancer	paladin
	page	knight	duke
	barbarian	???	chieftain
apprentice	acolyte	necromancer	dread lord
		dark harbinger	doom bringer
	Elementalist	magician	arch mage
	cleric	priest	bishop
archer	hunter	scout	ranger
	crossbow man	sharpshooter	sniper
rogue	mercenary	assasin	syndicate ???
	ninja	jounin	Kage
street fighter	navaka (low monk)	thera (average monk)	luang phi (monk elder)
	TanBelt	GreenBelt	BlackBelt
beast whisperer	beast summoner	beast mimic	beats master
	dragon controller	dragon rider	dragon master

legend:
>> indicate in which direction this class/split might go
??? name missing/searched for
? name suggestion
all names still undecided

ummm... anyone here??

ok how about a knights third be
lancer and spearmen are different since lancers are on horsebackI would leave it as just spearman
spearman->pikeman
paladin->holy defender

I would push necromancer to 3 and go
dark alcolyte->necromancer->liche

hunter->ranger->forest protector
crossbowman->sharp shooter->sniper
mercenary->assassin->Royal assassin

ninja use naruto
ninja->jounin->kage

martialartist->sensei

dragon rider->dragon knight->dragon master

Meh, the fist fighters, lol. Street fighter->brawler/monk->Boxer?/Martial artist->Pro-Boxer/Sensei.

How about Knight->Paladin->Holy Defender. Spearman->Pikeman->Lancer. Ya know, since you could learn to ride a horse, lol.

hunter->ranger->Forest Protector. How about we change forest protector to Guerrilla Fighter, since hunters and rangers kill things in the forest.

I figured rangers were defenders of the forest

kind of were we get the modern day term of a forest ranger

that is why I suggested forrest defender but these are just suggestions to help kiri so she gets final say

I always thought they hunted in the forest, using their knowledge of it to survive and track things to kill...Not really protect it =o I think of Aragorn, living in the wild and stuff

for the 4th rank...
i thought of some more abilities... something with more responsibilities...
like commanders... some kind of leaders... they could establish guilds or something like that...
so those need some great names...

for hunters... i wouldnt say they only hunt some animals... and also not only in forest... you could say they have great skills like tracking things down... but not nessecarly bound to the forest
so forest defenders would give some kind of wrong image


liche.... isnt a liche some undead skeletton??? also it doesnt sound that powerful... i think... maybe something with "dark" in the name... or devils servant or something...

spearman ... what about he could splitt again into pikeman or lancer...
cause maybe not everyone likes to ride a horse in the end....
but still the 4th rank is missing...

i totally agree with ninja...

about knight... i wouldnt say "holy" "defender" ... maybe some like to be rather a darkness knight... some might not be called defenders... as they rather like to be the one that attacks...
also knight is not nessecarly the the 2nd rank ... i just put it there as to show in which direction it might go

about fist fighters... i really have no clue about them... how to set them up...
shoalin monks? are actually martial artists.. no.. hmm... x.x im lost

Liches are undead that still have souls and their abilities in magic are insane =D

I actually meant to switch monk and martial artist. Monks give a vow and focus their lives to peace, learning, etc. Martial artists just fight using martial arts o.o

i know that about liches... but i doubt anyone wants to be undead.. unless.. they want to be undead... lol..
meeh.. liche wont be the top rank for dark mages.. =/


yeah that might ork mimi...

but still... how to call the ranks...?
monk splitt will be able to use kinds of magic too... holy magic i guess... though mainly focus on fighting or the good..
im not knowledged in this subject... about the ranks inside of monks... like apprentices, superiors, etc... there sure are ranks like this

about the martial artists direction...
i dont know if using directly a name like "kung fu fighter" would be good... as someone might like to use karate... or judo... or whatever..
and yes... sensei might be a good 4th rank... though this might sound a bit low.. =/

What about master hermit? xD

I see your point kiri just trying to give some ideas

and the commander and guild ideas are very good, that would make people want to be in them

and with liche I figured those who would want to be controlling undead would want to embrace the eternal life of the undead and weild there powerful magic as thus

i know... and im just giving my personal on opinions on those ideas... ^^

well... undead as in vampire like... might me attrackive... but liche is rather a running skeleton with magical powers... so i wouldnt like to be a liche x.x
also... a mage of darkness does not nessesarly have to do something with undead...
at least thats my opinion..
i though of darkness mages being rather destructive or mind manipulating... maybe a few choose the path of summoning the undead.... ( a new splitt????)


ive updated the list a bit

ya think the beast-whatevers could shapeshift into a certain beast? =o Maybe that could be the ??? level

hmmm.... nice idea...
beast transformer??? (name idea)

someone who is able to become a beast himself...
or to fuse together with a beast and become somekind of man/beast creature

Um...No clue...Wildshape?

what??



anyway...
also i was thinking about dragon riders... the 2nd rank... where the the split to dragon rider ir... i dont think they already should be able to actually really fly around on a dragon...
maybe rather like kinda grab some leg and get taken along with for a certain range... as the dragon is still too weak to get flied with
he can control the dragon somewhat to his will... and use a few magic artes

*changed tabl again*
dragon controller only commands a dragon...
dragon rider can fly on them... of corse controllin it to..
dragon master can control many dragons at once
????

and if you want them to start clans and stuff I think kage is better then senin for ninja

what more appropriate for a top ninja then to be called shadow

right.. i'll change to kage

any ideas on fist fighters and the swordfighters?

Swordfighter-Page-Knight-Duke/Duchess?

Spearman-Pikeman-Royal Guard?

(Found stuff for Monks)

Fistfighter->Navaka*Lowly Monk*->Thera*Average level Monk*->Luang Phi*Venerable Elder, monk leader*

Monks use certain martial arts mixed with monk weapons, staffs, monk spade http://www.martialartsmart.net/45-84cs.html, etc. =D

I forgot Martial Artists, found stuff for it too, lol. We could use the American Marine Corps level system =D

Fistfighter->TanBelt->GreenBelt->Blackbelt

very good research truce ^^

and monks do use wepons but they keep it simple


and strangely I had the same idea for the final lvl of spearman

Thanks, lol, edited it.

nice work truce ^^
i like it ^^
though "royal" guard implies that someone is serving under some king...
maybe not everyone would like to do that..

im going to implement that stuff asap

of course if anyone would come up with an even better idea... thinks are still open for suggestions ^^


btw vipy... whats an alcolyte??
i searched fo it... and such a word doesnt exist... but acolyte....
but an acolyte is some one who serve in a church... ö_Ö that somewhat doesnt fit the dark attribute ... no?

no one said it had to be a holy church kiri

and sorry for the typo

there are unholy and dark pagan churches too

lol youre right...

but as i looked it up...
always "catholic" stood in brackets behind it... so yeah...

anyway... about dark mages...
like i said... they do not nessecarly have to work with undead...
like i said.. destruction and manipulation is one way...

maybe we could even add a new split to them...
one for those that control and summon the undead...
and one for those as i described...

I've seen acolytes in just about everything =o Dark jedi acolytes, church acolytes, acolyte monks. Could be just about anything