class skills and weapons

ok as this thread says now that the classes re done we need skills and weapons and armor for these classes

Weapons are easy =D

Swordsman=Swords....Well, I dunno if that works, lol. I know people may want to use more than just swords at first level =o Armor could be anything, from light to heavy, shields.

Apprentice=Staff, maybe modified to focus magical power =o and only robes =[ Heavy armor you ruin the ability to cast spells.

Archer=Bows/Crossbows, light and medium armor

proselytizer/rogue=daggers, short swords, light armor

Streetfighter=Honestly? Fists and legs and feet and elbows and no armor to light armor

Beast whisperer=Whips? Chains? a Sharp pointy stick...Light armor?

first we need to gather what weapons even exist...
im starting..

list or weapons and equipment: in any shape and size
swords, ones hand, 2 hand, daggers, knife, axes, morning star, spears, lances, staffs, (brass)knuckles, kunai, shuriken, sticks, claws, long needles, poison, blowtube, bows, crossbows, various arrows, whips, nun-chucks, clubs, bats, scythe, chains, thin wires, cleavers, rapier, saber, cane?, hammer, pole-arm?, books, wands, scepter, ....

thats what i got so far

any additions?

about classes...
some weapons... i dont know how to manage them...

just a few thoughts:

soldier: swords and axes, pikes?,rapier, etc..., shields
samurai: katana ... and other japanese weapons... but mostly katana, daggers? didnt they had like a katana for main fight... and dagger or short katana as a alternative... in special cases
spearman: spears > pikes, pole arm
lancer: lances
knight: swords, axes, rapier shields
barbarian: clubs, bats, morning stars, hammer

apprentice:staffs, whips, wands, books, scepter, (made from different materials)
dark mages: staff, whip, books, ... scythe???
elemantals: same as apprentice
cleric: staff, scepter, wands, books

archer: bows, cross bow, dagger, knife, arrows of course

rogue: daggers, knifes, claws, poison,
assasin: same as rogues + long needles, thin wires, blowtube
ninja: same as rogue + kunai, shuriken, thin wires

street fighter: knuckels, bats,
monks: sticks ... those that monks have, anything else?
martial arts fighters: knuckles, nun-chucks,

beast wisperer: whips, clubs, chains,
beats master: same as above + ?
dragon rider: same as above + ?

Yeah, Samurai had two weapons, a katana and a wazikashi, which is a short katana for fighting indoors. I think Scythes would word for dark mages =3

What do you mean by sticks exactly? And Martial Artists should stick with just knuckles and possibly claws, at least the ones that stick to the palm of your hand.

Also, you could throw maces and morning stars into the swordsman class

sticks... aka staff...
just a plane long stick...
and monk had those special monk staff


no nun-chaks for martialartists?

I thought martial artists were just going to use hand to hand combat =o

Isn't a plain long stick a staff?

lol..
well yes... it was intended like this
but when i gathered the weapons... somehow... nun-chucks just did so fit to it... ö.ö;

staff stick...
when i hear staff... then i associate it with mages.. them having a wooden root... lol

Hmm...Okay, knuckles and nun-chuks xD

Oh, duh x.x lol, okay!

Should we be thinking of abilities now?

lol

sure... you can start thinking it out... ^^

Since swordsman is a starting class and the branches are extremely different, I would say that should start off pretty well even is strength, speed, dexterity, defense, constitution, charisma, intelligence, Wisdom. Vipy knows what I mean.

Apprentices are about the same only lacking strength, constitution and defense. They would be very intelligent, Wise and charismatic. Hopefully speedy in case of close combat.

Archer don't need much but speed and dexterity, a good constitution would come in handy if some got too close.

Rogues would be fast, dexterous, very charismatic and intelligent. They'd be sneaky and able to use surprise to their advantage. Charisma to get out of certain situations and intelligence to know places and things

Streetfighters would start out strong, fast and dexterous, maybe wise if they want to be a monk. They would use their equipment to their full ability, especially claws and "sticks" lol.

Beats whisperers would need to be strong and have a very good constitution to deal with their creatures.

nice truce ^^

i like that..
the only thing is
archer... would need dexterity... wouldnt they??as well as fast..... and rather not too strong... as they like to avoid close combat... and would need speed to kinda "flee" to get a bigger range to attack again... maybe an average strength

lol, that's what i said =P

lol... you said the opposite XD

They don't need much BUT Speed and dexterity o.O

sorry... then i read it wrong XD

xD It's all good!

yeah and samurai also used a short sword called a tanto

would either be used as a def sword for samurai that would use two weapons or an indoor weapon also

and how about the choice of a wand for a wizard, maybe someone doesnt want to use one

all swordsman maybe dont want heavy armor

so we need need benefits and downfalls for ones who choose what

two handed weapons and one handed weapons and that only one handed can use a shield

I suppose wands would only be used to have a different selection of spells =D Like the D&D wands

=D dragon riders use magic swords and they can use bows too, and magic

btw how do you use magic there should be a specific way also what is magic anyways in this rpg? where is it drawn from? living things? yourself, the air?

also how do you create spells with words? if i can give a explanation to all of this, would that be approved?

(also there are those who are incapable to learn this withouth a teacher or at all, mind protection however is possible to anyone but especially with those who use magic its stronger than those who cant) naturally you use magic, by mind but that would be dangerous with mind alone if you would let your mind wander away so instead you control it with words, like brisingr, letta, waise heill, draumr kopa, maela, kveyva, naina there are a few examples not to make things too complicated you can say you simply talk in the "old language" and translate it as you would normally speak, even if the ones around you would not quite fully understand...

the elves use the old language as there native language, its impossible to lie in the old language which makes the elven society so peaceful...

AiKirika wrote:about classes...
some weapons... i dont know how to manage them...

just a few thoughts:

soldier: swords and axes, pikes?,rapier, etc..., shields
samurai: katana ... and other japanese weapons... but mostly katana, daggers? didnt they had like a katana for main fight... and dagger or short katana as a alternative... in special cases
spearman: spears > pikes, pole arm
lancer: lances
knight: swords, axes, rapier shields
barbarian: clubs, bats, morning stars, hammer

apprentice:staffs, whips, wands, books, scepter, (made from different materials)
dark mages: staff, whip, books, ... scythe???
elemantals: same as apprentice
cleric: staff, scepter, wands, books

archer: bows, cross bow, dagger, knife, arrows of course

rogue: daggers, knifes, claws, poison,
assasin: same as rogues + long needles, thin wires, blowtube
ninja: same as rogue + kunai, shuriken, thin wires

street fighter: knuckels, bats,
monks: sticks ... those that monks have, anything else?
martial arts fighters: knuckles, nun-chucks,

beast wisperer: whips, clubs, chains,
beats master: same as above + ?
dragon rider: same as above + ?

The list seems right on target in my opinion, though for archers note that the daggers are for throwing as thats what they would normally be used for or maybe have the knives for throwing and the dagger for...you pick. I would add saber to crusader and or any others in that class group and also add lance to either paladin or knight, which is basically a sword with a cone shape on the end of it.

=S i think a lance could be added to dragon rider but im not sure, just like lancer

It can be added to both.

well..
i also think dragon riders should be able to use various weapons...
but then...
they have to decide for 1 only..
and not cary around various weapons.. and choose the one they want...
or keep switching their weapons fitting o the opponent
if you choose a weapon... youll stick with it for the rest of your life...
or till the end of rank at least

i think almost every class should be able to carry a dagger or a knife around himself... as an emergency case..
especially for archers... as they would have real problems if the opponent comes to close ... they would need a way to defend themself...
of course also use them for throwing purpose

also a few clases should be able to set traps..
like a bear trap... or having the knowledge to set like a rope... then when someone runs in.. the get hanged up on a tree XD
archer should be able to do such stuff...
assasins and ninjas too... and maybe beast summoners

also...
wands, staff etc... you do not have to use them all..
but you can choose what you prefer to use of course...
the list is just meant as a collection of what would be available...


and of course... a heavy armor gives much defense... but also slows down

armor limitations

soldier: all armor and shields (heavier armor more prot. but slower reflex)
samurai: If remember correctly they tended to favor heavy armor but up to player
spearman: same as soldier
lancer: same as soldier
knight: same as soldier
barbarian: light natural armors (like furs and leathers) maybe balance out by doing more strength and kind of like a skin def bonus (like toughened by the conditions they live in)

apprentice:clothing (cast spells for extra def)
dark mages: same
elemantals: same
cleric: everyone aims for the healer so I would say all armors but chance of spell failure at higher armor since restricted movement

archer: light armors like leathers

rogue: need stealth and speed so light armor
assasin: light armor
ninja: light armor if not cloth and give them higher dex and jutsus to aid in def

street fighter: light and maybe like barbarian
monks: none and like barbarian
martial arts fighters: like street fighter

beast wisperer: I say furs and leathers
beats master: same
dragon rider: all armor